When Things Change - Part II: Child Support

{3:36 minutes to read}  New York enacted a statute several years ago to put some clarity into the process of modifying child support. The statute provides that there are three bases for a party to ask a Court to modify support:

(1) a substantial change in circumstances;

(2) the passage of three years since the last order or modification; or

(3) that a party’s income has changed by 15% or more since the last order or modification.

In a separation agreement, the parties must decide whether they want to opt-out of the applications of (2) and (3) or have them apply to any modification petitions they may file in Court.

Of course, in mediation, we do not expect parties to petition the court for a modification; any changes will be spelled out in the agreement. To the extent that they cannot be determined, the parties would go to mediation first, and go to court only as a last resort.

Normally, we want to address every possible contingency in an agreement, but there are some things that would be too convoluted or time consuming to try to predict. Others would be so unlikely to happen that it would not be cost effective to fully address them at the time that the parties are making the separation agreement.

For example:

  • If someone is in a tenuous employment situation, and it is likely that there could be a change in income, it then makes sense to spell out what will happen, such as a recalculation of support by the CSSA.

  • But what if that person is older, and he or she may not be able to get another job in the same field or may experience a long period of unemployment or under-employment? Obviously the needs of the children must still be met, but in those situations, it could be more equitable to reassess completely – look at both parties’ incomes, expenses and even assets to determine how best to insure support for the children.

  • Maybe there has been a remarriage, and so the expenses of the payor spouse or the payee spouse are greatly diminished, making more income available for support.

  • With an older person it might make sense to look at retirement assets for support.

  • If child care is being used by the custodial parent and the other parent is temporarily out of work, that person could assume the child caring role.

The point is that when change occurs, there can be creative solutions available, even though those solutions are not readily apparent when the agreement is signed. You can always use mediation to brainstorm resolutions that will work for both of you and the children.

Have you had to adjust or modify your child support decisions?

When Things Change - Part I: Relocation

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Imagine that you’ve been living separately under your agreement for a few years and are co-parenting with your former spouse. Things are going better than you ever imagined, your children are happy, and then your former spouse informs you that she will be losing her job unless she accepts a transfer to Florida. Because that job results in a significant increase in salary, and because she then will be able to be close to where her parents and sister live, she wants to move to Florida with the children.

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Imagine you are the mother in that scenario, and you recognize how well the children have been adjusting. You were getting along with their father, and you know the children need both parents, but then this happened. You feel it will be hard, but you won’t get a job like that here in Westchester, and the children will be able to enjoy a much higher standard of living, private schools, and close ties with extended family.

This is an example of why cases involving a parent relocating, especially a parent with whom the children primarily reside, are so very difficult. Typically, you have two very committed and well meaning parents, well adjusted children and circumstances where no one is at fault.

These are some of the most painful and hotly contested cases. Like other cases involving children, they ostensibly are decided by “the best interests of the children” and a copious number of cases relying upon the standards outlined in a landmark case in New York, “Tropea v. Tropea.”  Many different interpretations can be made by attorneys applying the facts to these standards, and the stakes are higher here than in just about any other matter involving the children, because potentially:

  • 1 parent will be compelled to stay in a situation that she doesn’t feel is best for the children; or

  • 1 parent will not have the consistent contact with the children previously enjoyed.

I will always talk about the concept of relocation when working with parents who are separating. Most parents will decide to include language in the agreement that indicates:

  • They both agree to remain within a certain area;

  • If one needs to move beyond that area, a process for making that determination.

Admittedly, outlining the process to be taken is the easy part - talking first, then mediation if they don’t reach agreement, and then court if mediation doesn’t work. The hard part is coming to a determination, whether in mediation or in court.

What makes that determination in mediation less destructive to the family is that you have two well meaning, loving parents striving to make the best decision possible for their children, even if they differ on what that is.  In court, you will have those same well meaning and loving parents cede their decision making to attorneys or a judge, and I believe that only makes a very difficult process even more difficult.    

How Can a Child Specialist Help?

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We often use and hear the term “best interests of the children.” You would imagine that if applied consistently, the results would also be consistent, but that is not necessarily true. It all depends on the process used and who is making that determination.

Litigation

If you are in litigation, you might think it is the judge who makes the determination, presumably based upon applying case law to the facts before him or her. However:

  • The presentment of the facts is seriously impacted by the efficacy of the presenting attorneys; and

  • The applicable case law is brought to the judge from those same attorneys and the judge’s staff, again, making it subject to who is the better advocate or researcher.

And of course, this ignores the most paramount of issues, namely, why is the judge assumed to be a better arbiter of what is in your child’s best interests?

Attorney Negotiation

If you are in the situation where you have two attorneys negotiating for parties, each of them, as well as the parents, can have a very different standard as to what those best interests would look like.

Again, the result would be determined by which party is better at negotiating rather than any kind of impartial standard.

Mediation

Even in mediation, which clearly I advocate, you can have two well meaning parents who have different parenting approaches. Hopefully, they will reach an agreement that they both feel is in the children’s best interests, but that is not always possible.

At that point, I usually suggest the use of a mental health professional.

Child Specialist

Based upon the child specialist’s wealth of professional knowledge and experience, they can help parents determine what is best for the children. They can also meet with the children and provide a valuable resource for the family.

Working with a child specialist can be especially helpful when the children are infants or toddlers. The specialist can guide the parents to create a parenting plan that addresses the child’s developmental capability and accommodates the child’s differing needs as she ages.

Co-Parent Counselor

Another helpful specialist is a Co-Parent Counselor. This professional can be used during the mediation process or as a resource in the agreement if difficulties arise after the agreement is signed. They can:

  • Help parents build skills so they can co-parent most effectively and minimize conflict between them;

  • Help the parents determine how to tell the children they are separating;

  • Teach parents skills for addressing issues, such as a parent consistently being late for access times;

  • Teach parents how to effectively communicate with each other.

Even though we all have a basic understanding of the term “in the best interest of the children,” sometimes it is good to get some professional help when making that determination.

Have you used a mental health professional to help with your parenting plan? Feel free to leave your comments and/or experiences in the box below.

I Love the House vs I Need the Money!

{3:30 minutes to read} To some, including me, the equity in a house is just like any other asset. I have never been attached to a home in the sense that I felt sad when it was sold. I recognize, though, that it was always my choice to move on. I’m not sure how I would feel if the choice wasn’t mine to make, or if it came at the same time as getting a divorce.

It is that sense of continuity and wanting something that is familiar to remain the same after the divorce that can lead a party to want to keep the house. Typically, it is when younger children are involved, but that need for consistency isn’t limited to those circumstances. I have had clients whose children were long out of the house or who have never had children, who want to stay in their home because it meant something more than just a place to live.

Letting the Court Decide

If this were a case for attorneys or the courts, without young children, the house would most likely be sold if the parties couldn’t agree upon a buyout. If there are young children involved, the court might order that the custodial parent stay there with the children until they graduate from high school, but if the other party can make a good case for selling, it might be sold. However it is ordered, only one party would be satisfied with the outcome.

Letting the Couple Decide

This is where focusing on the parties’ interests in mediation can help them achieve a resolution that will work for both of them.

First of all, the one party will actually hear and understand why something is important to the other. It is not just a demand in an attorney’s letter – it is a clear explanation as to why this means so much. In that sense, it becomes much more relatable, and the discussion can then lead to how each can meet that interest as opposed to a series of offers and counteroffers.

If there isn’t a way to achieve a buyout, here are some resolutions that might work for both:

  • They can agree to some money up-front and then the rest over time;

  • Or a sale in 2-3 years;

  • Or a buyout when the other person is able to achieve it.

Whatever the decision and/or resolution they reach, through mediation it will be one with which they both can live.

Keep the house or sell and start over? What do you think?

Is It Ever Okay to Just Give In?

“I don't care; I just want to get this over with.”

{3:45 minutes to read} When those words are spoken by a client in mediation, I always get a little twinge of dread.

To the client, this makes perfect sense. Clients choose mediation to reduce cost, reduce turmoil and proceed as quickly as possible to a separation agreement. So, why not just give in so your matter can be resolved?

If it’s a relatively minor point that is in contention, then, sure, give in and move on if this is within your parameters for a an overall settlement.

What causes me pause is when this is said, in exasperation, over a major point that needs further exploration and discussion before the client can fully say yea or nay.

My fear is that when the feeling of frustration over the pace of the mediation process is long gone, the client is confronted with the ramifications of that decision and there will be regret, possibly even dissatisfaction with the entire settlement and mediation process.

So, what do I do when I hear those words and the other party is just dying to take this offer and move on?

  • I explore why the client is saying that.

  • I ask them to explain why their stated reasons for opposing it are no longer valid.

  • I reality test and ask them to put themselves 6 months or a year or 2 in the future and see if they would still feel the same way.

Then, if I am sure they understand what they are doing and the consequences of their decision:

  • I will reiterate that they are in mediation and have the right to make informed decisions for whatever reason they choose.

  • I will put language in the agreement indicating they were fully informed of other options and made the decision in recognition of the possible future consequences of it.

  • I might also possibly require that they consult with an attorney in order to help ensure the future viability of the agreement before I would feel comfortable drafting it.

Sometimes after that, a client will acknowledge maybe he or she spoke too soon. However, I’ve also learned that while I may see impending doom on the horizon, for a client, it can be a freedom and release that is well worth whatever they are relinquishing.

I had one of those clients a few years ago, who in spite of having a rather aggressive litigator as an attorney, gave up significant assets and support, just because he wanted to be separated NOW. The couple did return to mediation recently, and while he acknowledged it was a struggle living with the decisions he made, he was not consumed with regret, angry over the process or even angry with his former wife. It was worth it to him to move on when he did.

So, while there may be cases where those words could mean trouble, in other cases where it’s a fully explored and informed decision, it could well be worth the sacrifice.

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Thanks for the thoughtful article, Clare. As you say, one needs to reality test and make sure that the client understands the implications, but in the end, it is their decision.

Nancy Radford

From the Child's Point of View

{2:50 minutes to read} I am fortunate enough to say that I am not a child of divorce. Since I don’t have that first-hand experience, I have strived, as most mediators do, to learn about the impact of divorce on children and how that can be ameliorated. In mediation, the best interest of the children is paramount.

The Children

Even when the parents are well intentioned and have the admittedly oxymoronic “good divorce,” there is still a devastating affect on children. Their world is turned upside down, and everything that was familiar and safe to them is gone.
 
Even if their parents weren't happy, and it was obvious to the children, there is still that enormous fear of the unknown and clear loss of having both parents living in the same home.

The Parents

In mediation, we work with parents to minimize the negative effect of divorce on children as much as possible. We also educate them as to resources that are available to them and their children, but we cannot extinguish the effect.

It’s especially hard because the parents are going through their own loss, and they too are confronting what could be a scary and unfamiliar future. While they are well intentioned and want to be there for their children, they may not be capable of being there as fully as they wish.

The Mediator

Mediators are trained to understand child development as it relates to a parenting plan. Mediators understand how to recognize when professional help is needed and can advise their clients of community resources for both parents and children.

It also doesn't hurt for a mediator to try to imagine what it would be like for a child to learn that their parents are separating. How would they feel and react?

A Resource

While research books abound, I suggest reading the children’s book, Divorce is the Worst by Anastasia Higginbottom. I was offered a preview of this book and recommend it highly. Although meant for children, I think it is equally enlightening for adults.

To a child, it conveys a sense that whatever they are feeling, it is okay. And while our instinct might be to help a child understand and focus on the idea that “things will get better,” this book shows that right now, from the child’s perspective, things are really not good. It helps a child to not feel guilty or like they are acting inappropriately because of how they feel in the moment.

For a parent, the book provides a clear way for them to recognize that as bad as it is for them, their children had nothing to do with the divorce, yet are taking a pretty big hit. Keeping their focus on their children and what they are feeling is crucial in this unsettling time.

How are your children reacting to your separation or divorce? What resources have you found to help during this difficult and trying time? Please feel free to share your thoughts in the comments box below.

Why We Do What We Do

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Do we choose our profession because of our basic personality, or does our profession cause us to form a certain personality trait?

I've always had a “never say die” kind of attitude. I would always think that I could fix it or make it better, be it a relationship or a friend who was upset. I could fix just about anything that had gone awry. A basic problem solver.

This attitude wasn't always to my advantage when it came to personal relationships, but as an attorney, it served me well. In real estate law, my clients wanted to buy or sell a house; not sue the other person or keep a contract deposit. I always believed that short of someone getting denied a mortgage, a contract would close no matter the issue. In matrimonial law, needless to say, there were many problems, and it was my job to solve those problems if at all possible.

In traditional matrimonial law, part of the bargain is that clients give you their problems, and to a great extent, give you control of themselves and the outcome. As a mediator, I don’t control my clients and no longer solve their problems; I help them to solve their own problems. In mediation, they own their problems, they own the process by which they are resolved, and they definitely own the result.

Did being a mediator change something in my basic personality? I would say yes, in the sense that I made a transition from problem solver to facilitator. Like most mediators, I came to mediation after having practiced a more directive, helping profession. I had to fight my initial urge to just fix other people’s problems and tell them what to do. It’s especially difficult when the clients may very well want you to do just that, but expedient as it may be, that is not mediation.

I think practicing mediation has made me a more attentive and better listener. It’s much easier to hear what someone has to say when you’re not thinking about how to make it better. I listen more not just to clients but to friends and family. I can recognize when someone wants empathy and to be heard as opposed to assuming that they want me to help them fix it.

Do we choose our profession because of our basic personality, or does our profession cause us to form a certain personality trait?  In my experience, the answer to both questions is “Yes.” Our personalities initially guide us toward a profession that suits, but the profession can also change and mold our personalities.

How does your personality fit your career? Have aspects of your career changed your perspective or personality?

 

Do You Respect Your Spouse's Approach?

{2:50 minutes to read}  We all approach situations differently. Some, when confronted with a problem will attack it in a logical, methodical fashion, with the goal of getting it resolved in the quickest and most economical way. Others will see even a minor crisis as an impossible situation that can only be remedied by spending a lot of time complaining about it, and a lot of money needlessly. Often, these same people are married to one another.

In a real emergency, where health or safety is an issue, my husband is definitely the person I want to have around. He resonates calm but also takes charge and knows exactly what to do. In situations not so dire, though, his conduct is strikingly different. His first reaction is that it’s a disaster of epic proportions, and he immediately predicts the worst-case scenario.  

True to the theory that opposites attract, I am in the more methodical camp for minor problems. And while I don’t panic or become ineffective in a true emergency, I will freely admit that he does much better than I in those situations.

So, like most couples, we work well together as a team and appreciate the other’s strengths and weaknesses. We make jokes about our differences, but we don’t get angry at the other person for approaching a problem differently.

Couples in Crisis

With a couple who is not in a healthy relationship, and who is in conflict or going through a divorce, there is much less recognition of the other’s strengths and much more focus on their weaknesses. Behavior that previously was acceptable is now at best irritating and at worst intolerable.

In mediation, I’ve seen this play out both ways, and clearly, parties who accept and work with the other’s need to either take things more slowly, have things explained more than once or even chart out a plan tend to get through the process and have a much easier time. Those who are constantly exasperated at his or her spouse reacting in the very same way that they have always acted when confronted with a problem make the process that much more difficult.

As a mediator, I try to acknowledge how each party needs to work through an issue, whether it is with a step-by-step plan, recognition of how scary the prospect of setting up a separate household can be, or someone who always sees the worst-case scenario.

With a party in conflict, I try to recognize:

  • That for someone who is more prone to panic, the idea of getting an apartment within even what you see as a reasonable time frame can be insurmountable.

  • The fear that is behind inertia and talk about the process step by step.

  • The need to have answers to all the questions and concerns.

  • That this is who they have always been, and they’re not doing this because they want to annoy me or their spouse.

Whether you are the planner, the worrier, the excitable, the panicked, the bewildered or the methodical, try to respect and accept your partner’s approach for what it is. You will find the path a bit easier to navigate.

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Mediation First, Post Divorce

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Clients can become exasperated by all of my “what if” questions as I try to provide for future changes of circumstance. I do this with the hope that their agreement can address these changes so they never need to return to mediation.

However, there are some things that can never be anticipated, and other circumstances that, while they might happen, are not worth the time and effort to explore at the time the couple is separating.

So, what to do if something changes and your agreement doesn’t work for you any longer?

First, talk to your ex and see if you can work it out on your own. If it is something minor like wanting to tweak the days or times of access, you can just agree upon it. If it is something major like a relocation, change in primary residential parent, or a change in support, you would need an amendment to your agreement, and then an amendment to your judgment of divorce.

If you cannot agree to everything on your own, then I would suggest contacting a mediator. Most separation agreements and all mediated agreements contain a provision that provides if there is a future conflict, the parties will first address it in mediation. Even if the mediation first clause is not in your agreement, mediation is always an option if you both agree to mediate.

Why mediation first?

Whether you mediated your initial agreement or not, mediation should be your first choice for a number of reasons:

  • It gives you the greatest likelihood of achieving an agreement that will be in the best interests of both you and your children.

  • You can start the process quickly.

  • You can control the costs.

  • You and your ex speak for yourselves rather than having attorneys speaking for you.

At this point in your life, it is important that you control and decide your future circumstances just as when you were getting divorced.

Future posts will consider the different types of issues that may unexpectedly arise after you are divorced and what possible resolutions you can consider.

Finding some bumps along the way post-divorce? Mediation may help smooth them out. Give us a call if you would like to talk about it.

5 Common Myths about Mediation

Though mediation is a less contentious way to divorce, there are still some myths that keep people from taking advantage of the process. Here are 5 of the most common ones:

1.  Only people who agree on terms of settlement can mediate.
 
If that were true, there would be no need to mediate, and they could just enter into a settlement agreement. Of course, people who disagree can mediate, just like people who are angry can mediate and people who don’t really like each other can mediate.
 
The only agreement that both parties must make before starting mediation is to mediate. The mediator’s job is to facilitate the couple’s discussion so that each spouse is heard and understood, and the discussion is focused on resolutions that will satisfy each party’s interests.
 
2.  A couple can only mediate if they have equal power.
 
In a marriage, it is rare that both spouses have equal advocacy skills. In mediation, though, a party who needs help to advocate or make good decisions can get that help, be it from a lawyer, financial person or divorce coach.
 
If someone is lacking the capacity to advocate as a result of substance abuse or domestic violence, then only mediators with special training should undertake those matters, if at all.
 
3.  People who mediate don’t use lawyers, so their agreements are unfair.
 
First of all, the use of an attorney does not guarantee that an agreement is fair to both parties, nor for that matter, is a court determination always fair. To the contrary, in mediation, the parties are in control of all decisions that go into the final agreement. They make those decisions based upon a number of considerations, including their own ideas of fairness, the law, what works best for them and their family and how their decisions are likely to affect them in the future. Further, parties in mediation are encouraged to seek the advice of an attorney and many do, in fact, see an attorney at the conclusion of the mediation, to review their settlement agreement.
 
4.  Mediation ignores the law so agreements will not be upheld.
 
Mediators provide legal information (not legal advice) to the parties, so the parties are aware of the law. It is then up to the parties to decide whether or not they want to apply the law or waive it. A knowing waiver of the law, such as a waiver of the Child Support Standards Act, will be upheld provided that the parties clearly understand what the law provides. 
 
5. Only people with few assets and low income can mediate.
 
This is simply not true. Many high-income, high-asset cases mediate for the very reasons that anyone wants to mediate – it is a process in which you work with your spouse and not against your spouse to resolve your issues in a way that is least harmful to the family; it is private; it is less costly; and it typically takes much less time than an adversarial process..
 

Confused about whether you should mediate or not? Please give us a call or leave a comment in the box below. We would be happy to answer your questions.

Comments from Social Media

"Excellent article, but I would emphasize that they should be "mediation-friendly attorneys."

Mark B. Baer

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Clare thank you for writing this! It is concise and well written. I will hope to post this information very soon

Denise Coggiola

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Bravo, Claire! I would add some of the "Pros" for choosing mediation: 1. It is a confidential settlement arrived out of court, not by a "stranger in the black robe" 2. A mediated MSA has mutually agreed upon decisions by both parties, following informed consent re their options. 3. Mediated agreements are more likely to be followed and stand the test of time, as opposed to litigated agreements that often require repeated visits to the courtroom for modification. 4. For families with children, the mediation process teaches co-parents how to successfully co-parent into the future, rather than continuing ti pull on opposite ends of the rope. Parties are taught "new scripts" to enhance their communication process, thus ensuring their children will not become collateral damage of the divorce battlefield.

Jann Glasser

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