914.946.0848  .  contact  .  map & directions  .  subscribe  .  LinkedInFacebookTwitterGoogle+

If Only It Was That Easy

January 3, 2018  | 

{4:06 minutes to read}

“We don’t need to mediate–we agreed to everything already and just want you to write it up.”

“We don’t have any assets, so we don’t have anything to talk about.”

“We don’t need a separation agreement, we just want to get divorced.”

Undoubtedly, as all mediators do, I’ve heard these statements, or variations on them, more often than I can count. It’s understandable, but it’s not that simple.

Here is why it’s more complicated than you may think and why coming to an initial consultation for mediation can be so helpful, even if you think that you don’t need mediation.

We’ve agreed to everything

It’s hard to agree to everything without knowing what everything is, including the law and the concept of separate and marital property. Your salary is marital property, along with the bank account in your own name funded with your salary, any furnishings that you bought together, and possibly your retirement account.
 
In terms of children, you may have general ideas about how you will share time with your children and have seen the Child Support Standards Act online. But: 
 
  • Have you considered holidays, vacations, school recess periods, and how the schedule may change as the children get older?
  • Have you done budgets to see if the formula for child support is workable for you?
  • Have you discussed what happens if one of you loses your job or makes more or less money than you do now?
  • What about insurance if one of you dies?

We don't have any assets

  • Does that mean you don’t have any marital assets? Or does it mean that you kept assets in your individual names and you are each keeping them?
  • Did either of you or your employers make any contributions to a retirement account?
  • How about debt?
You certainly can agree that you will each keep assets and debt held individually, but you need to know what those assets and debts are and how much was accumulated during the marriage. It’s unlikely that nothing at all was accumulated, so you need to have full and complete disclosure. And you need to understand what the law provides in terms of equitable distribution before you decide to waive it.
 
You may also think that because you both work, there is no need for spousal support. That may or may not be the case, but you wouldn’t really know until you understand the law in New York and do budgets to see if you can each afford to live on your own. 
 

Can’t you just do divorce papers?

Uncontested divorce papers are best for couples who have worked everything out in a Separation Agreement or who don’t have much in the way of assets and don’t have children. If not, it’s more complicated to complete a set of uncontested divorces papers. And you lose the protections and the detail that you can achieve in a Separation Agreement.

So, while it will make the process much easier if you’ve agreed upon everything or have limited assets, that doesn’t necessarily obviate the need for mediation. Attending a consultation won’t obligate you to go any further, and you can get some valuable information to help you make a good process choice.

Clare Piro Attorney and Mediator

Attorney & Mediator
500 Mamaroneck Avenue | Suite 320
Harrison, NY 10528
Tel: 914.946.0848

Email »

Comments
Ada H
April 27, 2018 - 1:34 PM
Brava Claire! You nailed it. Excellent article!
Search
Topics
Mediation (117) | Divorce (108) | Separation (25) | Divorce Mediation (19) | Mediator (13) | Litigation (11) | Communication (10) | Conflict (10) | Child Support (10) | Separation Agreement (9) | Consultation (7) | Co-Parenting (7) | Attorney (7) | Prenup (7) | Clare A. Piro (6) | Clare A. Piro Mediation (6) | Parenting (6) | Collaborative Divorce (6) | Assets (5) | Parenting Plan (5) | Children (5) | Marital Home (5) | Expenses (4) | Agreement (4) | Settlement (4) | Marital Assets (4) | Separate Property (4) | Family (4) | CSSA (4) | Equitable Distribution (4) | Finances (4) | Clients (3) | Joint Decisions (3) | Divorce Coach (3) | Prenuptial Agreement (3) | Listening (3) | Emotions (3) | Divorce Mediator (3) | Financial Professional (3) | Relationships (3) | Family Court (3) | Child Consultant (3) | Child Inclusive Mediation (3) | Marital Property (3) | Responsibility (3) | Estate Documents (3) | Divorce And Children (3) | Mediation Myths (3) | Informed Decisions (3) | Divorce Finances (3) | Child Support Standards Act (3) | Clare Piro (3) | Divorce Agreement (3) | Surviving Spouse (2) | Grace (2) | College Expenses (2) | Inheritance (2) | Apology (2) | Moving Forward (2) | Consulting Attorney (2) | Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA) (2) | Step-Mother (2) | Step-Father (2) | Humanity (2) | Anger (2) | Bitterness (2) | Post-Divorce Income (2) | Law Professionals (2) | CDFA (2) | Mediate (2) | Separation Agreements (2) | Anxiety (2) | Calculating Support (2) | Blended Families (2) | Step-Children (2) | Joint Decision Making (2) | Spouse (2) | Child Support Standards Act (CSSA) (2) | Pandemic (2) | New York Child Support Statute (2) | Unrequited Love (2) | Collaborative Practice (2) | Attitude (2) | Truth (2) | Couples (2) | Custody (2) | Legislation (2) | Conflict During Mediation (2) | Settlement Agreements (2) | Seperation (2) | Budget (2) | Agreements (2) | Mediation Benefits (2) | Mediation Versus Litigation (2) | Estate (2) | Right Of Election (2) | Budgets (2) | Will (2) | Equal Parenting Plan (2) | Compromise (2) | Mediating Emails (1) | Feelings (1) | Intention (1) | New Year’s Resolutions (1) | Mediating Onine (1) | Religious Holidays (1) | COVID 19 (1) | Cultural Holidays (1) | Lack Of Focus (1) | Child Focused Mediation (1) | Communicating (1) | Family Mediations (1) | Remain Healthy (1) | Parental Holiday Sharing (1) | Thrive (1) | Tone Of Voice (1) | Facial Expression (1) | Joseph Goldstein (1) | New York’s Child Support And Maintenance (1) | Postnuptial Agreements (1) | Waiving Spousal Support (1) | Lack Of Communication (1) | Depression (1) | Holiday Season (1) | Languish (1) | Transition Day (1) | Caucus (1) | Mediating Virtually (1) | Child Support Payment (1) | Domestic Violence (1) | Primary Caretaker (1) | Custody Determination (1) | Child's Best Interests (1) | Separating (1) | NYs Child Support Guidelines (CSSA) (1) | Co-parenting (1) | Power Of Regret (1) | Non-Residential Parent (1) | A Neutral (1) | Children And Divorce (1) | An Advocate (1) | On-Duty Parent Responsibilities (1) | Retirement (1) | Guilt (1) | Parenting Schedules (1) | Technical Difficulties (1) | Anxious Thoughts (1) | Agreement To Mediate (1) | 50/50 Parenting Plan (1) | Unhappy Relationship (1) | Expectations (1) | Pathological Liar (1) | Heard (1) | Understood (1) | Older Parents (1) | 50/50 Parenting (1) | Tough Decisions (1) | Older Adults (1) | Eldercare (1) | Couples Counseling (1) | Elder Mediation (1) | Pension Plans (1) | Support Add-ons (1) | Pensions (1) | Being Heard (1) | Breast Cancer (1) | Ovarian Cancer (1) | Support Connection (1) | Cancer (1) | Successful Mediations (1) | Commitment (1) | Being Understood (1) | Divorce Needs (1) | Support (1) | Collaboration (1) | Decision Makers (1) | Cohabitation Agreement (1) | Cohabitating (1) | Unmarried (1) | Emotional Trauma (1) | File A Petition (1) | Parent Coordinator (PC) (1) | Hope (1) | Default Provisions (1) | Parent Coordinator (1) | Self Compassion (1) | Partial Buyout (1) | Buyout (1) | Inflation (1) | Children Of Divorce (1) | Interest Rates (1) | Real Estate (1) | Selling The Marital Home (1) | Self Reflection (1) | Postnup (1) | Meditation (1) | Fairness (1) | Separate Asset (1) | Marital Asset (1) | Consulting (1) | Parenting Agreement (1) | Divorce Terms (1) | Divorce Agreement Terms (1) | Final Decisions (1) | Contentment (1) | Retirement Plans (1) | Opposites (1) | ADR (1) | Presumptive ADR Program (1) | New York Family Court (1) | Family Court Presumptive ADR Program (1) | Parenting Styles (1) | Coparenting (1) | Perspective (1) | Personality (1) | Pension (1) | Separate Property Credit (1) | Advocacy (1) | Empowerment (1) | DecisionMaking (1) | CoParenting (1) | Family Occasions (1) | Honest Conversation (1) | Legal Rights (1) | Alternative Dispute Resolution (1) | Qualified Domestic Relations Order (QDRO) (1) | Happiness (1) | Beliefs (1) | AcceptableOutcome (1) | Mediation Process (1) | Matrimonial Practice (1) | Kindness (1) | Righteous Anger (1) | Disagreements (1) | Ideas (1) | Saving Grace By Kirsten Powers (1) | Actuarial Company (1) | Kirsten Powers (1) | Court (1) | Judge (1) | Pro-Rata (1) | Global Pandemic (1) | Bonuses (1) | Commissions (1) | Income Level (1) | Maggie O’Connor (1) | Fear Of Separation (1) | COVID19 (1) | Fall (1) | Parents (1) | Disclosure (1) | Moving On (1) | Unemployment (1) | Seperation Agreement (1) | Payments (1) | Extremes (1) | Conflicy (1) | College (1) | Acknowledgement (1) | Power (1) | School Year (1) | Kids (1) | Summer (1) | Marriage (1) | Resolution (1) | Scarcity (1) | Contribution (1) | Nesting (1) | Divorce Law (1) | Joint Legal Custody (1) | Financial Costs (1) | Lack Of Trust (1) | Accusations Of Delay (1) | Tentative Agreements (1) | Permanent Agreement (1) | Temporary Agreement (1) | Installment Agreements (1) | Negative Communication (1) | Compassion (1) | Divorce Papers (1) | Retirement Account (1) | Maritial Assets (1) | Maritial Property (1) | Transmutation (1) | Commingling (1) | Married Couples (1) | Hurricane Harvey (1) | Abundance (1) | Grandparents (1) | Settle Agreement (1) | Alone At The Holidays (1) | Relocation (1) | Specialist (1) | Mental Health (1) | Equity (1) | House (1) | Finding Love After Divorce (1) | Post-Divorce Dating (1) | Holidays Post-Divorce (1) | Difficult Clients (1) | Holiday Blues (1) | Scared Of Divorce (1) | Fear Of Divorce (1) | Halloween (1) | Moving On After Divorce (1) | Joint Physical Custody (1) | Parenting Post-Divorce (1) | Parenting Plans (1) | Change (1) | Self-determination (1) | Baby Boomers (1) | Self-talk (1) | Living Apart (1) | Living Together (1) | Effects On Family (1) | Older Dogs (1) | Adopt Shelter Dogs (1) | Dogs (1) | New York (1) | Advice (1) | Self Determination (1) | Blame (1) | 2015 (1) | Year In Review (1) | Mindfulness (1) | Equality (1) | Balance (1) | Control (1) | New York State (1) | Joint Account (1) | Settlement Term (1) | Court Order (1) | Mental Health Professional (1) | Needs Vs Wants (1) | Negotiation (1) | Entitlement (1) | Court Process (1) | Financial Documents (1) | Financial Information (1) | Family Law Software (1) | Lawyer (1) | Marital Concerns (1) | PostNup (1) | Post Nuptial (1) | Time To Process (1) | Patience (1) | Marriage Counseling (1) | Frame Of Mind (1) | Reluctant Spouse (1) | Telling Your Spouse (1) | Court Vs Mediation (1) | Asset Distribution (1) | Buyer (1) | Maintaining Calm (1) | Matrimonial Cases (1) | Custody Disputes (1) | Multiple Assets (1) | FinancialPortfolio (1) | Complicated Finances (1) | Mediation Misconceptions (1) | Social Distancing (1) | Coronavirus (1) | Attitudes Toward Prenups (1) | Meditate (1) | Property Distribution (1) | Equitable Distribution Statute (1) | Apologizing (1) | But (1) | Fiancé (1) | Prenuptial Agreement (Prenup) (1) | Collaborative Process (1) | Seller (1) | Cash Flow (1) | Life Insurance (1) | Bankruptcy (1) | Little White Lies (1) | Lies (1) | Public Trust (1) | Personal Relationships (1) | Settlement Agreement (1) | Married (1) | Affair (1) | Wife (1) | Spouses (1) | Husband (1) | Financial Situation (1) | Custodial Parent (1) | Intervention (1) | Dreaming (1) | Therapy (1) | Beneficiary (1) | Spousal Support (1) | Dishonest (1) | Work Stress (1) | Interest Payments (1) | Remarriage After Divorce (1) | Equity Loan (1) | Refinance (1) | Divorce Assets (1) | Emotional Attachment (1) | Dividing House Asset (1) | Ex-Spouse (1) | Accepting Responsibility (1) | Taking Responsibility (1) | Family Enrichment (1) | Holiday Preparations (1) | Attitudes (1) | Significant Other (1) | AttorneyPresence (1) | FamilyMediation (1) | MediationSession (1) | LawyerDivorceMediation (1) | Matrimonial Dispute (1) | Perfection (1) | Buyout Options (1) |
Connect
Close Announcement

Online Mediation Available

In response to COVID-19 I am providing family and divorce mediation services online. Click to learn more.